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post Jul 17 2010, 12:48 AM
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They're considering putting out an EP prior to releasing "Everything Always Now" in the fall...

This too, seems interesting and weird.
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post Jul 17 2010, 05:16 AM
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Wow an EP, that's almost a bit underground-ish. And indeed some what weird. Maybe they need more time to finish a complete album and to keep the fans happy they're releasing an EP? Oh wait the album is coming out in the fall that's not that long. Could be to get everybody excited for the album?
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post Jul 17 2010, 07:41 AM
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Yeah, maybe it's to get people more excited, I dunno. I just saw someone on Twitter say they loved "Aftlife", and ask him if they had any other songs lying around that they would put out soon, and he said there were talks going on about maybe putting out an EP before the cd even comes out...

It can't get any LESS underground right now than the way they're doing things, though. They're pretty much promoting the shit out of the fact that Bush is back and with a new song...
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post Jul 17 2010, 02:04 PM
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At least we will have a better idea on the direction of this album. If this EP ends up anything like 'Afterlife', then pretty much all my excitement for this new record will fade away. And that kind of scares me because I loved those days of anticipation for Razorblade Suitcase, The Science of Things and Golden State. Nothing compares to the feeling of the wait and arrival of something you love. It's like Christmas.
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post Jul 17 2010, 02:13 PM
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Oh God...I remember when I bought Razorblade Suitcase. I had saved up my allowance to buy it and when I got it home I just listened to it over and over again in my brother's room because I didn't have a CD player yet. He got sick of me after a while. Anyway, yeah I miss that excitement.
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post Jul 18 2010, 02:56 AM
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QUOTE (Goldensuitcase @ Jul 17 2010, 11:04 PM) *
At least we will have a better idea on the direction of this album. If this EP ends up anything like 'Afterlife', then pretty much all my excitement for this new record will fade away. And that kind of scares me because I loved those days of anticipation for Razorblade Suitcase, The Science of Things and Golden State. Nothing compares to the feeling of the wait and arrival of something you love. It's like Christmas.



Am I the only one who that The Science of Things and Golden State were huge disappointments??
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post Jul 18 2010, 06:45 AM
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QUOTE (arienette @ Jul 18 2010, 02:56 AM) *
Am I the only one who that The Science of Things and Golden State were huge disappointments??


I loved The Science of Things from the very beginning, but Golden State needed time to grow on me.
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post Jul 18 2010, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE (arienette @ Jul 18 2010, 02:56 AM) *
Am I the only one who that The Science of Things and Golden State were huge disappointments??



I can see your issue with 'The Science of Things' as there are some weak songs on there such as 'Altered States', 'Dead Meat' and 'English Fire'. But I completely disagree about 'Golden State'. I love that entire album and for some reason, I appreciate it more and more these days. I could have done without 'Superman' and 'Inflatable', but it's a solid album throughout and contains some of there best material in 'Fugitive', 'Reasons' and 'Land of the Living'.
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post Jul 18 2010, 11:10 AM
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It wasn't showing I posted last in here and I didn't want anyone not coming in to continue this great conversation.
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post Jul 18 2010, 01:50 PM
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Golden State is an amazing record.

I also didn't like it at first, and then it started to grow on me a bit over the course of the months/immediate time following it's release, and then when I joined the Bush board, I started listening to it again, and my appreciation for it continued to grow.

Not to sound too fucking "sappy", but I consider that record seriously special. Can't put my finger on it, and maybe it just has something to do with the timing of it's release and what was occurring in the larger world and in my personal life back then, but something about it will always be very meaningful and important to me. I actually think in a very simplistic way, it's extremely philosophical.

I also think there's a really great Yin/Yang thing going on with Razorblade Suitcase and Golden State.
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post Jul 18 2010, 04:01 PM
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Dougy, you kind of over-think things, don't you? But that's fine. Makes it fun and interesting.

Personally, I've never really gotten anything out of an album outside of whether I enjoyed it musically or not. A song's deeper meaning or an albums overall story has never really meant much to me. I really just want to listen to something that appeals to my ears.

But I love GOLDEN STATE. It's melodic. It's catchy. It's enticing. It's memorable. I disagree with how people portrayed it as an homage towards SIXTEEN STONE, but it is a very good rock-record. BUSH changed throughout each album and this one was the most mainstream in sound in my opinion, but it also strayed a few times and created some beautiful material such as OUT OF THIS WORLD and REASONS. To me, those were the two most important songs on this album as they both showed a maturation in Gavin's ability to write a song that stayed true to form, but crept a little outside his comfort zone but ultimately worked.

Dougy, if you come to a concert with me, we can talk about it all for hours.
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post Jul 18 2010, 06:10 PM
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For you Golden State fans, what if any crediance does Nigel's thoughts lend: It seems part of the fall out between Gavin and Nigel was over the mixes of the record.

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"The shift in our sound I suppose seemed natural at the time although I think we overdid it a bit. Razorblade probably took about a month to record in total - TSOT probably about six. Golden State suffered from too much Pro Tools and I don't think it sounds very good: all the life was produced out of it. It's a shame because the basic backing tracks sounded great."
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post Jul 18 2010, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE (shhimundercoverdamnit @ Jul 18 2010, 06:10 PM) *
For you Golden State fans, what if any crediance does Nigel's thoughts lend: It seems part of the fall out between Gavin and Nigel was over the mixes of the record.


That's interesting. Makes you wonder if Nigel and Gavin separated because of musical differences as opposed to geological location/family. Nigel is right, but he also lessens the record a bit with his remarks which I think may be blown out of proportion. But I guess we'll never know since we can't hear what he claims to sound better initially, right?

Nigel does have a good ear though. Regardless if his solo stuff sucks.
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post Jul 18 2010, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE (Goldensuitcase @ Jul 18 2010, 07:40 PM) *
That's interesting. Makes you wonder if Nigel and Gavin separated because of musical differences as opposed to geological location/family. Nigel is right, but he also lessens the record a bit with his remarks which I think may be blown out of proportion. But I guess we'll never know since we can't hear what he claims to sound better initially, right?

Nigel does have a good ear though. Regardless if his solo stuff sucks.


If I had guess, I'd say both factors contributed to their growing apart. I think the rift may have started with the musical differences, but widened with both of them growing their families, not to mention the fact that Gavin kinda began grounding more and more of his life in LA/the states, while the other three remained based in England...

Also, Nigel has alluded to the fact at least once or twice in the last couple of years that some of the biggest issues within the band arose from Gavin's growing ego, particularly from TSOT on...

And in response to your earlier statement, I do tend to over-think stuff, Sam. Can't say it always works in my favor, but it's me.
I am a fan of going deep and finding layers of meaning in things, though, and I am at the whim of the emotional associations that I tend to make with music, people, and particular time periods and places in my life... To me, good pop music is always about snapshots of moments...
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post Jul 19 2010, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE (bone machine @ Jul 18 2010, 08:56 PM) *
If I had guess, I'd say both factors contributed to their growing apart. I think the rift may have started with the musical differences, but widened with both of them growing their families, not to mention the fact that Gavin kinda began grounding more and more of his life in LA/the states, while the other three remained based in England...

Also, Nigel has alluded to the fact at least once or twice in the last couple of years that some of the biggest issues within the band arose from Gavin's growing ego, particularly from TSOT on...

And in response to your earlier statement, I do tend to over-think stuff, Sam. Can't say it always works in my favor, but it's me.
I am a fan of going deep and finding layers of meaning in things, though, and I am at the whim of the emotional associations that I tend to make with music, people, and particular time periods and places in my life... To me, good pop music is always about snapshots of moments...


Who knows. There was obviously a change that got in the way because i just can't see a person turning down thousands of dollars and fame for nothing.

I honestly don't care if Gavin gives BUSH a good cd. If not, I'm siding wiht Nigel and forever posting tweets to Gavin how he sucks.

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