[shhimundercoverd...]

So Damages on FX ended it's second season....

Agree with consensus on the overall season. For one thing, too many actors were involved. Gay Harden for example, her storyline wasn't the most gripping and interesting and then Hurt seemed to just appear and vanish at all times. Hurt, I believe was even quoted as being upset by his role.



Secondly, where is the victory for the UNR storyline? It is all wrapped up in a couple seconds of arrests, just like that? What was the point? What about Hammond's character?

Personally, I was a bit disappointed on a few of the events that never did unravel. For instance, 24/Movie_lover brought up the fact of how Purcell's character never did find out about his wife...What about Ellen never finding out who Wes really is? Or what of Frobrisher and his whole "redemption" storyline?



What happened to David's gift? Did the writers forget about that one? I was so positive that we would see Ellen open it at the end of the season! Damn. Then again.. Season 3 may have a fresh new start and some happiness with a gift from David with a sense of humour.

As to one that did. I know why they had to kill him off, but Messer getting off'd. Damn. What a character that guy was. He took out Gregory Malina, Moore, David, and his own partner! Well, I guess we can all still see him every now and then in his T-Mobile commercial.!



I did love how they did go back full-circle though in the end there. Patty standing at the dock, Ellen back at David's grave.... " She'll be back."



All, in all it really hasn't been the brightest season for Patty- Uncle Pete died. She fired Tom (but hired him back, again!! :bag: ). She's divorcing her husband. The idea that Patty has sort of isolated herself to the point where all she has left is Ellen, is a bit interesting.

As to Finn Garretty stabbing Patty, I kind of saw it happening when he had the line of "I"m a frikkin madman crazy enough to talk..."



It'll be interesting where they go from here. Surely, the main cast will be back? So what is this new job that Ellen is going to take? Is it back to Hollis Nye? In fact, where does he stand in the scheme of things?


Either way, they need to get Byrne back healthy. Speaking of Rose. In a recent interview she did, she revealed that her full name is Mary Rose Byrne. Above is from LA recently....

[VelouriaVespa]

Glad FA shouted me out about Kings. That show is fantastic!!

[bone machine]

Rescue Me is two eps into it's new season and it seems like it got it's balls back. That's my contribution to this thread

[shhimundercoverd...]

VIEW OF SEASON FINALE"S

House: C

In my view the show has never truly recovered from the producers decesion to replace the original team and marginalize them in favor of a bunch of generally boring characters The other characters just can't carry the show. Sigh. Kutner's recent death didn't so much leave as confrim a void. The ending was really well done though.

Lost: A




What a great episode! So many (few) answers, so many more questions! Typical.

A very predictable ending ----- as always it is about the people. The most heart crushing moment was Sawyer holding on to Juliet. A man seeing to woman he loves being taken away from him. Jack admitted he loves and lost Kate. Miles wanting to save his father (and openly admitting it was his father).

One thing I noticed is that Jacob visited each Lostie at a "pivitol time" in their history. Jack with his first surgery, Jin and Sun when they got married, Sawyer when he lost his parents, etc.

Loved the spiritual feeling at the end: Ben telling Jacob that he has done all he has ever asked without once being able to see him, without being "touched" by him until John Locke comes along. He asks, "What about me?" and Jacob answers, "What about you?" Shoots right at the nature of faith: Perhaps Man # 2 speaks for the dead or somehow walks in their shoes and Jacob is protector for the living?

The question about should we (if we could) change the past? LOST brings up bigger questions than just the answers to a few island mysteries. At least I have till January to contemplate some of the questions.

Second hour was much better. First hour didn't exactly hold my attention, one way or another.

Just what was Jacob making during that opening? Also of note, Jacob had on a white tunic, and his friend a black one.

Got to say that when the body fell out of the coffin, I immedietly thought of Locke, and then they panned to his dead body. Widmore was the first person I thought of as well, as the faux Locke.

As to Juliet/Sawyer, very heartbreaking, but even worse was to see her near death trying to set off that bomb. I still have a feeling that she was pregnant as well.

Very reminiscent of Charlie using his last moments to warn Desmond about the freighter.

Great job by the always reliable Elizabeth Mitchell & Josh Holloway.

Another thing that has me a bit puzzled is Jacob's visits. Does it makes a difference if Jacob visited some of them as children and others as adults?

I also got a laugh at all the Moses references. "Locke" leading the people through the sand, Bernard looking like Moses, and most of all Ilana's buddies carrying the coffin/box like the Ark of the covenant on sticks!

Here's a weird out of the box theory, the Ajira castaways that were carrying that coffin/box carrying Locke!, are the children of the survivors of Oceanic 316 come back from the future to fix what their parents did or are trying to do now in their own past in 1977. I also believe that Jacob, if he was indeed really Jacob provoked Ben into killing him.

Not sure if this has been brought up or not, but the "help me" in the cabin. Could Locke have heard his own voice? If indded, brilliant because if "Locke" indeed was being held prisoner in that cabin, then Locke would have heard his own voice!

Damages: A-




There aren't many shows as engaging as Damages is, with fantastic acting, engaging storylines, wonderful characters. Realistically, the season was not going to end with either Ellen or Patty dead, as they are integral to the show's existence. And yes, the payoff to the long-awaited gunshot was anticlimatic.

One of the main problems, of the second season was the fact that there were too many characters and actors invovled. The entire storyline involving Hunt, and Gay-Harden was very disapointing. I still argue to this day that the storyline from the first season: David's murder by the hands of Fro's thugs, the attempted hit on Ellen, Fiske's suicide is what really drives the show and makes it special. And just like a good show does: the finale still asked some questions: At what point did Tom learn of Patty's plan to record Dave and usurp the FBI's corrupt investigation? What is this "new job offer" Ellen has been offered? "She'll be back, trust me." Thankfully, Rose is looking a lot healthier these days. Poor thing took method acting a but too seriously, one would think.


Chuck: A



How could NBC not renew this show? Why get rid of one of their best shows that combines comedy with action and heart? Say, all you want about the comedy, and action....but Chuck has what so many shows lack. Heart. You can see it in every episode.

I mean, "come on. Mr. Roboto". One word: synthesizers. Fucking bad ass. The sexiest actress on TV? Yvonne Strahovski!

Are we to believe that Bryce Larkin is done for good? How many times have they supposively killed him off?

Props to Scott Bakula too. You could actually see a bit of resembelence between father and son.

Burn Notice: A



Coolest show on TV. The last scene with Michael and "Management" was just all kinds of awesome. I loved Michael's reply to "Management" regarding whether he really thought he could keep his old enemies at bay -

Jeffrey Donovan is quite an under-valed actor, if you ask me. He's always terrific and always delivers, but his work in this finale was just tremendous. And so was Michael Shanks. The two of them working together - what a delight for us viewers!

Plus, Bruce Campbell!!!

Fringe: -A-

Mad Men: A-

Life on Mars: C

Bones: F

[Royal Duchess of...]

You'd think I would have actually seen Burn Notice by now, but I haven't.
Maybe I'll catch up on it this summer.

[Royal Duchess of...]

Matt and I have been watching The X Files on Netflix. We're into season five now, and I had forgotten how freaking awesome that show was.

Also, we watched a mini-marathon of Survivorman the other day. That guy is crazy, but entertaining.

[Goldensuitcase]

Hey Bill, what did you think of the series finale of LOST? I know a lot of fans felt like they were ripped off, but having re-watched the entire series within the last month of the finale, they really did answer all that needed to be answered in my opinion. I don't have that feeling of unresolved mysteries. And to me, that finale was one of the best episodes of all-time when it comes to finales. Loved every single second of it and was very moved by quite a few scenes in it.

As for other shows, anyone watch EUREKA? Very fun show.

[Royal Duchess of...]

Meh, I didn't feel ripped off by the finale, and questions were definitely answered, but I just kinda felt like they took the cheap, easy route.

[Goldensuitcase]

Meh, I didn't feel ripped off by the finale, and questions were definitely answered, but I just kinda felt like they took the cheap, easy route.

How so? What exactly did you NEED to be answered? To me, the show wasn't the kind of show that warranted that. You just needed to get the gist of it. And we did. We found out the origins of Jacob and his brother along with Richard. We know the island is meant to block evil from entering the world. We know that throughout time, Jacob and his brother brought certain groups to the island to help their cause without giving away much at all. And we know that each person had a role, but they had to have FAITH in that role for it all to work..

Did you get teary-eyed at all? I loved the final scene. And I am going to really miss hearing that music.

[Goldensuitcase]

And BILL, I think you're love for Ms. Rose is a little too much.

[Royal Duchess of...]

How so? What exactly did you NEED to be answered? To me, the show wasn't the kind of show that warranted that. You just needed to get the gist of it. And we did. We found out the origins of Jacob and his brother along with Richard. We know the island is meant to block evil from entering the world. We know that throughout time, Jacob and his brother brought certain groups to the island to help their cause without giving away much at all. And we know that each person had a role, but they had to have FAITH in that role for it all to work..

Did you get teary-eyed at all? I loved the final scene. And I am going to really miss hearing that music.

No, like I said, I think they did answer a lot of questions. I just wasn't happy with the ending. I just seemed to me like they went with the easiest, most obvious ending possible. If everyone's dead, it's a whole lot easier to wrap things up in a neat little package, right?

But I still absolutely loved that show. A lot of shows have terrible series finales, or at least ones that don't measure up. I guess I'm just picky. I jjust thought it was too predictable.

And no, I didn't get teary-eyed.

[shhimundercoverd...]

Huge fan from the pilot till the end. I have to say though that I hated, really hated that Allison Janney episode though. God god, what a terrible actress.

I loved the way LOST ended. It resolved all questions the way they are resolved in our own lives. Dead is dead. Whatever happened, happened. Some things are irreversible, and you can’t really fix the past, no matter how hard we try.

The main thing for me though is that the show has always been about the characters. I could go on and on about the transformation of other key characters to the people they were before Oceanic Flight 815 crashed but it should be pretty obvious where guys like Sawyer, Jin, and Jack are concerned, especially Jack given his faith (or lack thereof) from S1 all the way to the finale.

A key quote that I knew would always come into play was that it didn't matter who they were before they crashed, on the island everyone got a second chance. When I heard that bit of dialogue, at least from my perspective the direction of the series became clear.

Way back in S2 I believed what the show meant to me: redemption. The island has always been secondary, at least to me. Was I intrigued with some of they mysteries along the way? Of course, who wasn't ? I mean, if there weren't any mysteries or danger, the show would be awfully boring but it was the danger and the mysteries the characters faced that brought them closer together and made them become better individuals than what they were before September 22, 2004. As Jacob mentioned, he brought them to the island because they were all flawed, all "lost" in their lives and beliefs to varying degrees.

Terry O'Quinn was the season's best performer because he was so superb playing the new badass "Flocke" as well as the old John Locke, and transitioned between them seamlessly, but I agree as well in that he didn't quite have any showcase moments or episodes like what Emerson got in Ben Linus. O'Quinn was consistently outstanding and especially impressive if you've watched the show for years, because I would watch "Flocke" and not see the old Locke one bit...he was very transformative and immersive in the new role.

And Sam "Eureka" is a guilty pleasure of mine. Good camp fun.

[Royal Duchess of...]

Bill, I agree about Locke. That was an amazing transformation. It had to be difficult, being the same person and yet not, I mean same clothes and everything. Ben was probably my favorite character though. And Rose. Rose and Bernard were pretty awesome.

I miss the show already.

[Goldensuitcase]

Bill, I agree about Locke. That was an amazing transformation. It had to be difficult, being the same person and yet not, I mean same clothes and everything. Ben was probably my favorite character though. And Rose. Rose and Bernard were pretty awesome.

I miss the show already.

Rose and Bernard were pretty useless throughout the last few seasons. Felt like throw-ins pretty much the entire time.

As for Locke/Smoke monster, while he is of course a good actor, I felt that he pretty much just played the same character (LOCKE) even when people knew he wasn't Locke. I never felt he was not LOCKE. I think I would have liked to have seen him be a little more aggressive.